Democrat State Senators and State Legislators Arrested for Extortion

[Hell To Pay]

Seven arrested in statehouse bribery sting (http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050526/NEWS02/50526002)

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[Hell To Pay]

Tenn. State Senator Resigns After Arrest (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/05/28/national/a112648D26.DTL&sn=010&sc=783")

This guy has had been charged in the past with multitudes of crimes. His Brother was a US congressman, and his nephew just announced he is candidate for Bill Frist's seat.

Why do people keep electing known democrat crime family members?

[Steve M]

Tenn. State Senator Resigns After Arrest (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/05/28/national/a112648D26.DTL&sn=010&sc=783")

This guy has had been charged in the past with multitudes of crimes. His Brother was a US congressman, and his nephew just announced he is candidate for Bill Frist's seat.

Why do people keep electing known democrat crime family members?

I think that people who vote Democrat or Republican should be reality tested by a team of psychiatrists and, if they are found not to be deluded, arrested for treason.


But that's just me.

The only difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is: who gets the welfare check.

[Hell To Pay]

The reality is that Libertarian Party is pure amateur hour and has no idea of how to win elections or even of how to build itself up to the point where it could win enough elections to even matter.

And that's not an opinion, that's the fact.

[Steve M]

The reality is that Libertarian Party is pure amateur hour and has no idea of how to win elections or even of how to build itself up to the point where it could win enough elections to even matter.

And that's not an opinion, that's the fact.

The libertarian party and all minor parties are impeded by laws put in place by Democrats and Republicans who fear competition.

That's not an opinion, that's a fact.

Even if you are right, so what? I would rather vote for people who don't know how to get elected than for the architects of the hegenomic oligarchy. A choice between Bush and Kerry is like a choice between getting robbed and beaten or getting beaten and robbed. If you vote for Democrats, you are voting for big, expensive, intrusive government; if you vote for Republicans, you are voting for big, expensive, intrusive government.

[Hell To Pay]

Look, there are at least three main basic ideas that real conservatives want action on, a rollback on government spending, stopping the illegal invasion of our borders, and ending govenment corruption.

I realize that the GOP is NOT a conservative party. It is just the best we have right now, and at least we are in there scrapping for real results.

A true conservative party would NOT be looking for ways to spend ever larger amounts on social programs which are nothing more than vote buying schemes.

Second, all three branches of the government are determined to play the "three monkeys" with regards to illegal aliens freely crossing our border.

So, the GOP, and Bush in particular, is highly deserving of criticism there.The 'Rats idea is to keep the status quo, giving the illegal trespassers even more entitlements so as to keep themselves in power.

And lastly, and I feel most importantly, we are not even close to the 'Rats who will support even the most corrupt member of the party just to stay in power. You guys are not paying attention when you mistakenly say there is an equal amount of crime and corruption in the GOP, the MSM doesn't like to tell you about the blatant corruption of the 'Rats, and that's why I help you to see the real score with my politician crime thread postings. Why anyone would want to be in anyway associated with the slime that their party has become is beyond me.

If any GOP'er betrays the public trust with a criminal act, it's the same, incarcerate his skunk ass.

Now try to keep up with the score.

[Steve M]

Now try to keep up with the score.

You have apparently missed the fact that I have kept up with the score and the score is Republicans 0, Democrats 0

Both parties are not only criminal enterprises, but they are in cahoots with one another to pass anti-competitive measures against third parties and independents. It is a documented fact.

You would be wise to avoid talking down to me, or regarding me as stupid. People who engage me in debate while operating under the assumption that I am stupid end up humiliating themselves.

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Gee Steve, anyone as humble as yourself probably shouldn't be taking up your usefull and productive time talking to rabble such as we, no matter our viewpoint . . you're absolutely right, all of the time . . !

[Steve M]

Gee Steve, anyone as humble as yourself probably shouldn't be taking up your usefull and productive time talking to rabble such as we, no matter our viewpoint . . you're absolutely right, all of the time . . !

Silliness.

You are barking up the wrong tree again. The guy spoke down to me in a patronizing manner. Am I not at least allowed, if not obligated, to tell him that he does so at his own peril?

You are aiming your sites at the wrong guy... again. Try aiming your sites at the guy who was arbitrarily belligerent towards the other guy simply because the other guy disagreed with him.

I never said I was always right. I never even implied it. In fact, my blog is called "Me and My Big Mouth" because I know that I might shoot my mouth off and be shown up later.

You (plural) are not rabble. I never even came close to implying as much. Hell to Pay was being rude. It's as simple as that.

[Hell To Pay]

And why wouldn't I be rude to you after your statement that I be excecuted or commited?

There are two kinds of people I hate most, crooks and liars. And commies. And socialists. And defenders of leftists. ZC has been caught lying a few times already and deserves low credibilty treatment.

I will let you go back to plotting your Libertarian space colony for fears of my impending doom by your annilhilation of the American Electorate with your humiliation ray gun.

[Steve M]

<prattle>

You need to look up two words in the dictionary: "patriot" and "jingoist". You're one; I'm the other. See if you can figure out which you are.

You are like a crazy person in a crowd arbitrarily swinging your fists at people. Most people walk on by, or walk on the other side of the street to avoid you.

Others stop and laugh or give you a smack or two.

I'm one of the guys who stops to laugh at you.

[Zen Curmudgeon]

>>snip<<

There are two kinds of people I hate most, crooks and liars. And commies. And socialists. And defenders of leftists.Uh, HtP, that's actually 5 kinds of people you hate most. I'd hate to see your Top 10 list. :)

Oh, and here's some "skunk ass" Republicans you might want to include in your educational postings. Which scoreboard do these go on?

http://news.mainetoday.com/apwire/D8A6TEIO0-139.shtml

New indictment revises conspiracy charge in phone jamming case

©Copyright 2005 Associated Press

CONCORD, N.H. — Prosecutors have won a new indictment against a former official of President Bush´s 2004 re-election campaign for alleged misconduct during the 2002 election.

The indictment renders moot multiple motions to dismiss filed by James Tobin _ motions scheduled to be heard in U.S. District Court on Friday. Tobin, of Bangor, Maine, will have to enter a new plea to the revised charges.

The new indictment charges Tobin with conspiring to deny New Hampshire residents their constitutional right to vote through a phone-jamming operation on Election Day 2002. The former indictment charged him with conspiring to annoy and harass voters by telephone.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/05/27/MNGNECVHK01.DTL

Court rules against DeLay PAC official

Critics say decision bolsters other cases tied to GOP leader

- Anne E. Kornblut, New York Times
Friday, May 27, 2005

Washington -- A Texas judge ruled Thursday that the treasurer of a political action committee formed by Rep. Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, had broken campaign finance laws as the group propelled the party into power in the Texas House in 2002.

The judgment awarded nearly $200,000 to five Democrats who were ousted by GOP candidates backed by Texans for a Republican Majority, the political committee founded by DeLay to help win control of the Legislature.

...Attorneys for the Democratic plaintiffs said they were confident the decision would lay the groundwork for those cases. The criminal case, being pursued by Ronnie Earle, the Travis County district attorney, has led to the indictment of three close DeLay associates.

And here's a little detail that slipped out of your latest thread:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=793771

By MATT GOURAS Associated Press Writer
The Associated PressThe Associated Press

NASHVILLE, Tenn. May 26, 2005 — Four Tennessee lawmakers, a former lawmaker and two others were indicted Thursday amid a federal investigation into the business dealings of a state senator from Memphis from a powerful political family, officials said.

Those charged included the senator, John Ford; fellow Sens. Kathryn Bowers and Ward Crutchfield; state Rep. Chris Newton; and former state Sen. Roscoe Dixon. Newton is a Republican and the others are Democrats.

I thought about adding the Ohio coin dealer who raised money for President Bush's re-election campaign while losing/misplacing/being unable to account for several million dollars in state cash, but he's only out of a job, not yet in court. And Jack Abramoff is still kind of in legal limbo after scamming megamillions from Indian tribes, but what the heck, I can wait.

Take Care -

ZC

[Hell To Pay]

If all you can do is laugh, then quit complaining about being kicked in the teeth by the big boys.

Until you go out and do some organizing, then you're just another bitter kook.

[Hell To Pay]

Uh, HtP, that's actually 5 kinds of people you hate most. I'd hate to see your Top 10 list. :)

Oh, and here's some "skunk ass" Republicans you might want to include in your educational postings. Which scoreboard do these go on?



I was razzing Steve about his math skills.

I'm game. The 'Rats will pull away in this contest in just a short time.

I have 5 election fraud Repubs, and one bribe taker.

You have 1 conspiracy to murder Rat, 1 election fraud Rat, and 5 bribe takers. Oh and Reggie too, Bank Fraud.

Pubs 6
Rats 8

Apparently the election fraud guys never get much icarceration, which is a damn shame. looks like signifigant jail time for the Rats so far.

[Steve M]

If all you can do is laugh, then quit complaining about being kicked in the teeth by the big boys.

Until you go out and do some organizing, then you're just another bitter kook.

You spit venom in literally every post, and I'm the one who's bitter?

HAHAHA!!!

And, by the way: organization is not the problem. The problem is that the Dems and Reps have joined forces to pass laws that impede minor party and independent competition, and yes we are organized to fight those laws, but it's like beating out a forest fire with a broom.

[Hell To Pay]

Yes, your advocation of the execution of the often ignorant American citizen electorate sounds a more than a little bitter. More so it sounds like something a crazed terrorist would suggest. You want to kill at least 50% of the US population because they don't agree with you?

Kook. Dismissed.

[Steve M]

Yes, your advocation of the execution of the often ignorant American citizen electorate sounds a more than a little bitter. More so it sounds like something a crazed terrorist would suggest. You want to kill at least 50% of the US population because they don't agree with you?

Kook. Dismissed.

My comments were never meant to be taken seriously. It was jab for jab, my jab being a lot more light-hearted than yours.

Grumpy old unpatriotic geezer. Dismissed.

[Zen Curmudgeon]

I'm waiting for some commentary regarding the Deep Throat revelations this week.

Say what you like (and you might have no argument from me) about the misbehavior of contemporary pols, Nixon's central role in an ongoing criminal conspiracy certainly trumps lying about fellatio in the scale of Presidential naughtiness.

Now that we know the #2 law enforcement guy in the USA (#1 was the closet gay J. Edgar Hoover: remember that the Attorney General, John Mitchell, had his own problems with wife Margaret) was providing the clues for the 4th estate's eventual expose of this criminal enterprise, I wonder what forum members who were actually alive and paying attention during the early 1970's (that's large & myself, so far as I know) think about this final un-masking?

If you have a need to repeat what you've been told about it, please let us old guys (and gals) have a word first. Otherwise, I am really curious about how it looks to those in my generation 30 years later.

For me, fear of Nixon drove me enlist in the US Navy to avoid being drafted into the US Army. I don't regret my service, but I have to say that my life was unalterably changed by this unindicted co-conspirator's apparent need to co-opt me and others in my age group in the service of merely political advantage. I am still a little angry about that, although I do think it turned out well for me in the end. However, that happy ending was more in spite of the government than because of the draft.

My generation, whether in military service or not, was irrevocably marked by the decisions made in the Nixon Administration. Is Deep Throat's insider's look at that decision apparatus something we should hope to see in play in the 21st Century?

Take Care -

ZC

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First, the big mystery, the one thing never disclosed about the whole Watergate deal . . . Was . . What were the burglars actually looking for? It has never been revealed, actually, although there's been several educated guesses, nobody ever actually said. All we really know is that is was "Political Espionage" . . . . .

Second, a correction . . Richard Milhouse Nixon's actions never "Made" anybody join any branch of the military to "avoid" the draft . . . John Fitzgerald Kennedy honored the SEATO Treaty which included the country of Viet Nam, and very unwisely started feeding advisors into the fray, then LBJ took up the banner and made a full fledged war out of it, sending troops en masse while tying their hands behind them with stupidly political restrictions . . . Nixon just got blamed for badly handling the botched mess he inherited, and although I disagreed with most of Nixon's decisions, he carried out preset policy from the Johnson Administration! there really wasn't much else he could do on that deal. Read yer history, especially the part dealing with Harold MacNamara's decisions . . Why do you think LBJ refused to run again . . it wasn't because he was going to go down in history as a great Commander in Chief! The Democrats did a Hell of a PR job on getting Nixon blamed for the whole damned mess!

How short the memory of the Voter!

[Zen Curmudgeon]

First, the big mystery, the one thing never disclosed about the whole Watergate deal . . . Was . . What were the burglars actually looking for? It has never been revealed

The point of the burglary was to gather politically advantageous data:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAwatergate.htm

"In 1972 Gordon Liddy joined the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP). Later that year Liddy presented Nixon's attorney general, John N. Mitchell, with an action plan called Operation Gemstone. ...

...One of Liddy's first tasks was to place electronic devices in the Democratic Party campaign offices in an apartment block called Watergate. Liddy wanted to wiretap the conversations of Larry O'Brien, chairman of the Democratic National Committee. This was not successful and on 17th June, 1972, Frank Sturgis, Virgilio Gonzalez, Eugenio Martinez, Bernard L. Barker and James W. McCord returned to O'Brien's office. However, this time they were caught by the police. "

Looks like a pretty clear explanation of the purpose behind the burglary. The burglars worked for the Committee to REElect the President (CREEP). There isn't much mystery here, and I should think your own admonition to read the history would have made this clear.

It is, in a footnote sort of way, interesting to note that after his release from prison, Mr. Liddy became a conservative radio talk show host.

Nixon just got blamed for badly handling the botched mess he inherited, and although I disagreed with most of Nixon's decisions, he carried out preset policy from the Johnson Administration! there really wasn't much else he could do on that deal.Perhaps I misunderstand large's point of view on the times of the Watergate crimes. He is, after all, a decade or so older than I, and things had certainly changed.

Mr. Nixon, a hugely popular leader, had, by 1972, 4 years to end the Viet Nam war. He didn't. Any reference to President Johnson's role in continuing the conflict after his surrender of office in 1968 is mere rationalization. This is Mr. Nixon's decision - he bears the consequences. "Uneasy sits the butt that bears the boss".

The legal ways by which an 18 year old American male in the early 1970's could avoid being drafted into the US Army were few, and limited to

***Voluntary enlistment in another branch of the military service. Mr. Bush and I were able to take advantage of this option, although I was not allowed to take a year off of my 4 year (not 2 year, as Mr. Bush served) year commitment to work for a Republican political campaign in Alabama;

***Marriage and fatherhood by age 18 (talk about "family vaues");

***Enrollment in a school of divinity studies, i.e., a seminary ("and where were you in 1972, Dr. Dobson, Rev., Falwell, Rev Robertson...?);

***Avowing and PROVING homosexuality (one can only imagine "proof" defined by each county's Draft Board...);

*** Applying for conscientious objector status, which still, if approved, required a 24 month period of involuntary civilian service;

***Accepting a call to arms as an involuntary enlistee, otherwise known as a a slave.

If your choice is to serve or be imprisoned, there is no choice. That's a pretty good definition of slave. (Think not? Discuss among yourselves.)

***Escaping the USA by illegal emigration to a country that did not allow extradition for "draft dodgers" (which, it should be noted, Mr. Clinton was emphatically NOT. He merely found a perfectly legal loophole in the law at that time and took advantage of it. This was the strategy followed by Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, Mr. Rumsfeld, Mr. Wolfowitz, Mr. Bremer, ... and all those other neocons who managed to avoid involuntary servitude).

So, when I was 17, I had to chose between lying about my sexual orientation, my religious vocation, the fecund state of my girlfriend, leaving the country in which I was born, enlisting in an alternative branch of the military or, by taking NO ACTION AT ALL, being forced into the service of the US Army itself.

If I was a high school senior today, I could choose to work at Wal Mart and get my health care coverage from MediCaid, sleep on my parents' couch, become a crack ho, gain employment, acquire tens of thousands of dollars of college loan debt, or even become a porn star, and never worry about government-mandated involuntary servitude. But no matter my employment choice, I would not have to fear my government sending me to a task I neither understood nor approved.

What bothers me the most is that we baby boomers, now grandparents, will have to see our descendants sucked into a lose-lose conflict sparked by the same short-sighted egocentric political calculation that spawned the whole Viet Nam/Watergate crimefest so long ago. And I truly despair that there is no safety valve, not credible agency that can act as a truth detector for governmental outrages. I don't see a Woodward & Bernstein in the blogosphere. Instead, I see bandwidth occupied by the smug, smarmy power-lampreys exemplified by Ann Coulter and her reflexive acolytes. There is far too much cynicism, far too little skepticism, and so few people who know the difference.

If history must repeat itself, I rage against the near certainty that my granddaughter or her babies, must be the ones to pay the price for so much sheerly criminal stupidity, and I pray that in her generation an analogue of investigative journalism will arise that values facts over spin, humanity over hubris, and so, in the end, protects us all.

Take Care -

ZC

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How many of those D-Day troops thought as you do, Zen . . . . or . . . . was that "different"?

War isn't anything anyone wants to wage, but right or wrong, if you're going to "Serve" your country, you do it when ordered to . . . And then if you feel your were sent in error . . change it when given the chance . .

Although I don't agree with John McCain, John Kerry, or George Bush (either of them) some, part or all, as case may be . . They "Served" and now are the leaders we have chosen to ask the next generation to do the same.

I guess, as long as there's people who believe differently than the majority of this country, we'll have disagreement with other countries, ethnic groups and religions . . sometimes calling for military action . . . and currently, I believe, the war is being fought over whether your grandchildren will speak Arabic, worship Mohammed and Allah, and be willing to kill anyone who would think otherwise . . . . . If it isn't . . it soon will be . . not if, just WHEN!

Read the Quran . . see what you think it says!

[Zen Curmudgeon]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/02/AR2005070200283.html

Congressman Mum After FBI Searches Home

By SETH HETTENA
The Associated Press
Saturday, July 2, 2005; 9:55 PM

SAN DIEGO -- A California congressman whose dealings with a defense contractor are under investigation was taking a "personal day" Saturday and not commenting on federal authorities' searches a day earlier of his home and a yacht where he stayed while in Washington, a spokesman said.

Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham didn't plan a public appearance until a Monday pancake breakfast in Encinitas, spokesman Mark Olson said.

...Authorities also searched the Washington offices of defense firm MZM Inc. MZM's founder, Mitchell Wade, bought a home from the congressman in 2003 at what may have been an inflated $1.7 million price. Wade also owns the yacht where Cunningham said he has lived part-time since April 2004..

[Hell To Pay]

Investigation. No arrest. No indictments. A big fat ZERO for you.


June 29, 2005
Jury Convicts Five in Federal Vote Fraud (http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nat-gen/2005/jun/29/062903725.html)

ASSOCIATED PRESS

EAST ST. LOUIS, Ill. (AP) - A federal jury Wednesday convicted the chairman of the city's Democratic Party and four others of scheming to buy votes with cash, cigarettes and liquor last November.

Prosecutors relied largely on secretly recorded audiotapes in which they say the accused could be heard talking about paying $5 per vote to get key Democrats elected.

Charles Powell Jr., 61, the city's Democratic Party chairman, was found guilty along with the city's former director of regulatory affairs and three others.

[Zen Curmudgeon]

From the ongoing criminal proceedings against two officials of Tom DeLay's Texas PAC, the emphasis is mine.

http://www.statesman.com/metrostate/content/metro/stories/07/13trmpac_me.html

Last fall, a Travis County grand jury indicted Colyandro and Ellis, accusing them of laundering $190,000 in corporate donations into campaign contributions to seven GOP House candidates. The defense argued that the indictments should be set aside because money laundering is a cash-only proposition and doesn't apply to the $190,000 corporate check that is photocopied in the indictment.

Take Care -

ZC

[Digger Dan]

We have met the enemy and it is us. I know we all want a nation where justice, freedom, and responsibility prevail and we can't have one without the other. We are all guilty of either sitting on the sidelines and cheering others on or branding and slamming the liberal or conservative while serving our own self interest. No wonder we get what we deserve. My mother once said that name calling is just another excuse for our own failing. We are either like chicken little or just chicken. We need to forget the branding and dividing the herd and concentrate on improving the breed. And I am as guilty as the rest . I guess our corral needs a little cleaning up and fence fixing and removing all the manure of corruption and self interest. This forum is great for helping to understand where we are at.

[Hell To Pay]

GUILTY VERDICTS IN CITY COUNCIL BRIBERY TRIAL (San Diego Democrats) link (http://www.kogo.com/localstory.html?ID=20050722022300)

A federal jury has found San Diego City council members Ralph Inzunza and Michael Zuchett guilty of several charges in connection with allegations that they accepted money from a strip club owner in return for efforts to rescind the city's no-touch ordinance.

[Hell To Pay]

Democrats' Tire Slashing Trial Set (WI) link (http://www.madison.com/tct/news/stories//index.php?ntid=47351&ntpid=2)

MILWAUKEE (AP) - The trial for five Democratic political workers accused of slashing the tires of vehicles rented by the Republican Party on Election Day last November will start Jan. 9.

The defendants are Omokunde, 25; Michael Pratt, 32, the son of former Milwaukee acting mayor Marvin Pratt; Lewis Caldwell, 29; Lavelle Mohammad, 35; and Justin Howell, 20. All are from Milwaukee except Howell, who is from Racine.

The five are charged with criminal property damage, a felony carrying a maximum 3 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

[Hell To Pay]

SEN. GRUBESIC ISSUES APOLOGY, WILL SEEK THERAPY (ANGRY LEFTIST LIAR) link (http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/30722.html)

"I wasn't forthcoming with police. I compounded it. It's my fault and I have no one to blame, and I'm truly sorry to my constituents and to my family. ... I want to try to put this behind me and work hard. I have four years to re-establish my credibility."

[Digger Dan]

An old Frontier truism was: "keep your eye on the gun that might shoot you, not the lead that's already on its way."
The source of power is always the source of harm and understanding it and keeping one's eye on it is essential--no matter whether it is doing good or harm or just sitting there doing nothing. Human experience, through time, would indicate that power is always corrupting and one can judge that by watching the seeking of its source by those who posses it. Today that generally means money or what can be converted into it. Keep your eyes on the source. and you have a better chance of getting the prize.

[Zen Curmudgeon]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/19/national/19taft.html?th&emc=th

August 19, 2005
Ohio Governor Fined Over Unreported Gifts
By ALBERT SALVATO

COLUMBUS, Ohio, Aug. 18 - Fighting back tears, Gov. Bob Taft apologized in court on Thursday for failing to report nearly $6,000 in gifts, and a judge ordered him to pay $4,000 in fines and write a letter to the people of Ohio acknowledging his violation of ethics laws.

"I am here today to publicly apologize to the people of the state of Ohio for my failure to provide complete financial disclosure statements to the Ohio Ethics Commission as mandated by law," Mr. Taft told Judge Mark S. Froehlich of Franklin County Municipal Court. "I accept total responsibility for my mistake, and I'm sorry."

Mr. Taft, a Republican, did not contest the four charges of filing incomplete financial-disclosure statements from 1998 through 2004. The county prosecutor, Ron O'Brien, filed the charges on Wednesday, making Mr. Taft the state's first sitting governor to face a criminal charge. He faced up to two years in jail....

There's more at the link, including mention of a missing $4 million from state funds.

Take Care -

ZC

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Just shows to go ya . . politicians are of the same stripe no matter which direction the stripes run . . .

[Zombiewire]

I couldn't pass this photo opt up........ I knew you would love it,

[Zen Curmudgeon]

The question about politicians isn't whether they'll do something outrageous, but what species of outrage will be involved.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2003/11/05/loc_kygovernor05k.html

Wednesday, November 5, 2003

As Ky. governor, Fletcher vows to 'clean up mess'
After 32 years, GOP takes over

By Charles Wolfe
The Associated Press

LOUISVILLE - Republican Ernie Fletcher, who promised to "clean up the mess" from 32 years of Democratic rule in the Kentucky Capitol, was elected governor Tuesday by a decisive margin over state Attorney General Ben Chandler.

...Fletcher got a big assist from President Bush, who made two trips to the state on his behalf in the last month, but mainly capitalized on voter disgust or disaffection following Gov. Paul Patton's extramarital affair and other scandals in the Patton administration.


http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/08/13/fletcher.html

Fletcher Subpoenaed In Hiring Investigation

Kentucky Governor Ernie Fletcher subpoenaed
(WCPO/WCPO.com)

Reported by: AP/ 9News
Web produced by: Neil Relyea
Photographed by: 9News
Last Updated: 8/13/2005 1:58:01 PM

FRANKFORT -- Kentucky Governor Ernie Fletcher has been subpoenaed to appear before a special grand jury investigating personnel practices within his administration.

The attorney general's office says Fletcher has been summoned to appear on August 30.

The Attorney General's office declined to say if Fletcher is required to produce documents at his appearance or provide any other details about the summons.

Fletcher's office has so far declined to comment on the subpoena.

...Thus far, nine current or former members of Fletcher's administration have been indicted on a series of misdemeanor charges alleging violations of the Merit System personnel law.

One person, dismissed former Transportation Cabinet commissioner Dan Druen, also has been named in 22 indictments for witness or evidence tampering.

Take Care -

ZC

[Hell To Pay]

RINO Taft is a tax and spend liberal who has almost no support from conservatives in that state.

U.S Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La.), a veteran member of the Ways and Means Committee looks like he may soon be in big trouble.

[Digger Dan]

Funny that the so-called tax and spend liberal seems so much like the so-called tax the middle class and enrich the rich conservative--The worker and small businessman seem to get it in the neck when it comes to both. Seems like the honorable and esteemed liberal and conservative visions have given way to a right and left so much alike they even goose step the same way. The degrading of the liberal/conservative tradition is tragic for this country. On the other hand the right and left, in their attempts to control the electorate, may soon find themselves at war with the generic American and when the generic American gets his ire up the right and left better watch out.

[Zen Curmudgeon]

RINO Taft is a tax and spend liberal who has almost no support from conservatives in that state.http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050818/ap_on_re_us/governor_charges

Taft's great-grandfather was President William Howard Taft — who later was chief justice — and both his father and grandfather were U.S. senators from Ohio.

Republican In Name Only? Jeez, HT, he's a 4th generation Republican office holder! How much more "Republican" can he get?

Take Care -

ZC

[Hell To Pay]

And Fletcher being subpoened before a grand jury is nothing. What's this guy charged with?

This one sounds as if the guy is trying to keep his promise of stomping out corruption by not promoting corrupt democrats.

From your link,
Fletcher, who is a Republican, has been sharply critical of the investigation into his administration's hiring practices led by Kentucky Attorney General Greg Stumbo, a Democrat.

This surely looks like a partisan cry baby attack.

Your lame attempt to classify Fletcher as criminal makes you look as bad as the crybabies!

ZERO!

[Zen Curmudgeon]

This surely looks like a partisan cry baby attack.Teach me, Master Po.

Name the names of those who meet your criteria for manly nonpartisan analysis.
Who in the current political scene do you find to meet your standards for "real" conservative values?

Provide a list, HtP. Let's see who you admire. Risk a little of your own capital.

And, if it so please you, be sure to tell us less-enlightened why those names meet your standards, how those people satisfy your standards.

You might wonder why I ask, thinking I seek only to trap you in some sort of Socratic trap. That's not it. I really do want to know who you admire. For all I know know you hold the keys to modern political thought.

Anyone can criticize. Few can originate.

Take Care -

ZC

[Zen Curmudgeon]

The Bluegrass state governor and some other high-ranking officials have been under investigation for violating the state law regarding hiring and promotions in the Kentcky state civil service. Violation of the law is a misdemeanor.

Several of the Governor's friends and advisers have been implicated, investigated or indicted in connection with the grand jury investigation. The Governor himself has been subpoened to testify before the grand jury. Yesterday, he pardoned everyone who had or might have broken the hiring law, specifically naming those of his administration already under indictment. Today, the Governor appeared briefly before the grand jury, invoked his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination, and left the courtroom.

Regardless of the judicial repercussions, I'm curious to see the voters' reactions at the next election.

http://www.challengernky.com/articles/2005/08/30/around_nky/doc43149e405d948894941908.txt

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[large]

It's funny, with the media competition that exists currently and the myriad of laws concerning the behavior of our officials and elected officers, that ALL of them aren't either under investigation or indightment at any given time . . And thank God Stupidity isn't illegal or most of 'em would already be in Jail!

[Zen Curmudgeon]

http://www.bluegrassreport.org/bluegrass_politics/2005/09/governor_fletch_1.html

Excerpted from today's press release by the Kentucky Governor's office:

Governor Ernie Fletcher calls on faith-based organizations to partner with Division of Emergency Management to assist hurricane evacuees in Kentucky

Toll-free hotline established for housing assistance for hurricane relief

FRANKFORT, Ky. - Governor Ernie Fletcher is calling on faith-based organizations to contact state emergency management agencies to coordinate disaster relief efforts through the Kentucky Division of Emergency Management.

[...]

Emergency officials also want to remind evacuees that they must register as soon as possible with their local American Red Cross chapter and with FEMA.

AMERICAN RED CROSS NUMBERS TO CALL TO REGISTER:
1-800-438-4636 ( 1-800-"GET HELP")
1-800-438-4637 ( 1-800-"HELP NOW")

The problem is, the second phone number listed for the Red Cross (ending in 4637) is actually for a phone sex service.:)

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[best.roulette.strat]

This guy has had been charged in the past with multitudes of crimes. His Brother was a US congressman, and his nephew just announced he is candidate for Bill Frist's seat.Why do people keep electing known democrat crime family members?I think that people who vote Democrat or Republican should be reality tested by a team of psychiatrists and, if they are found not to be deluded, arrested for treason.