Republican-leaning independent for Obama

[JohnSmithP]

As a Republican-leaning independent, if the Democrats nominate Barack Obama, I'll vote for Barack. If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, I'll vote Republican.

Hillary Clinton's positions on the issues are all based on political expediency with the goal of being president. Like her husband, Hillary Clinton has no attachment to any position, no leadership qualities and no legal, ethical or moral compass to guide her. Also like her husband, she will need to rely on the polls to guide her to a position.

The U.S. needs a uniter not a divider for President.

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Barack is not a "Uniter" . . He's a beginning Politician. Read his "Uniting" speeches made on the floor of the Senate during the ONE YEAR he's served, and of course that's when he was there . . Or, for that matter, look at his history as an Illinois Legislator . . Nada, Zip, nothing . . He was "Present", not Yea or Nay . . on ALL his votes during that term (the only one)

Other than that, He's young, good looking, and idealistic. Time and experience will take care of all three.

[JohnSmithP]

Barack Obama's "purported" limited experience doesn't even register as a problem for me when I compare it with the problem I have with Hillary Clinton's character.

A person's character is shaped and tested by their experiences which is why our next President's character should matter as much if not more than their experience.

1969 - While Barack Obama was being raised by a single mother and experiencing a life of racial and cultural diversity, Hillary Clinton was learning the art of triangulation and writing an admiring college thesis on Saul Alinsky whose fifth rule of political agitation was, "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."

1979 - While Barack Obama was actively involved in the South African divestment movement to end apartheid, Hillary was reaping profits of almost 10,000% in the futures markets and leaving taxpayers with her real-estate losses in the Savings & Loan bailout.

1989 - While Barack Obama served as the Harvard Law Review's first black president in its 104 year history, Hillary Clinton then wife of the Arkansas governor was receiving payments from a law firm that was doing the state's business and receiving board of director payments from Wal-Mart where she remained silent about Wal-Mart's anti-labor union practices.

1999 - While Barack Obama was securing bipartisan support for health-care reform and passage of low-income tax credits and child care subsidies in the Illinois legislature, Hillary Clinton was urging her husband to bomb Yugoslavia and supporting his Iraq "regime change" policy in order to divert public attention from the president's marital, legal and ethical infidelities.

2007 - While Barack was promoting a restoration of balance between work and wealth and criticizing special interests for distorting U.S. tax codes, Hillary and her husband were liquidating their blind trust of the nearly $50 million amassed during their years in public office.

Hillary Clinton's positions on the issues are all based on political expediency with the goal of being president. Like her husband, Hillary has no attachment to any position, no leadership qualities and no legal, ethical or moral compass to guide her. Also like her husband, she will need to rely on the polls to guide her to a position.

Barack Obama possesses the leadership, principles and visionary qualities of character needed to unite and not divide our country as the global economy teeters on the brink of economic meltdown not unlike the Great Depression.

Afterall the Roaring Twenties decade that preceded the Great Depression, like the Irrational Nineties that preceded our current decade, were both a golden age for technology, scandal-plagued politicians, corporate greed, and unrestrained personal debt and speculation.

[masonranch]

Afterall the Roaring Twenties decade that preceded the Great Depression, like the Irrational Nineties that preceded our current decade, were both a golden age for technology, scandal-plagued politicians, corporate greed, and unrestrained personal debt and speculation.


Blah Blah Blah, cut the crap pass the Fair tax. It's as simple as that.

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One: Diversity is the antithesis to Nationalism . . Assimulation is the key to keeping this country great, not divisive tribalism . .

Two: You have just outlined the conditions that the Democrats have criticized the Republicans for doing . . while consistently backing the Clintons and their agendas . .

In my view, neither party has put forth a viable candidate, nor have they made any attempt to change the views of their Congressmen (and Women) towards their constituency. Without the changing of the basic parties tenants, the American People should not support neither!

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And I gotta add . . Just because I've heard several others say the same ****ed stupid thing, wait, let me quote . .

As a Republican-leaning independent, if the Democrats nominate Barack Obama, I'll vote for Barack. If Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee, I'll vote Republican.

Go back a second . . Doesn't Obama and Hillary say pretty much the same things? Except the "Visionary" has never explained how he was going to pay for any of it, and Hillary has . . Y'see, the "Visionary" is selling the "Church of What's Happening Now" and he's a hell of an orator . . But the day after the swearing in, the nation will start a long slide downhill, mostly because Congress ain't gonna give him diddly unless there's something in it for them . . Plus, while he's telling you (and everybody else) that we'll be out of Iraq before his first month in office has passed, He knows absolutely, that even reducing troop numbers now would lead to a literal massacre of those troops left behind . . Trust me Bunkie, DISENGAGEMENT IS A LOT TOUGHER THAN ATTACKING AND OCCUPYING . .

Obama's selling "Hope" and "Change" . . He's going to Jeruselem and throw the money changers out . . You HOPE he will, and he'll CHANGE if he doesn't

It dazzles me when a person says what you have said because it's no more than an Oxymoron . . Obama or McCain, I'll vote for one or the other . . Wotthehellareyouthinking? Thats a similarity shared by apples and grapefruit . .

Honestly, McCain has done more to affect Congress' operation than any other in office in twenty years or so . . although he hasn't piled up any list of successes . . But he definitely knows what is needed . .

Personally, I hope McCain is intelligent enough to nominate Joe Lieberman as his running mate, because that's about as "Bi-Partisan" as you can get. I don't think either of the opposing candidates could beat them . .

ButwotthehelldoIknow?

[McDuffie for Congress]

Barack Obama's "purported" limited experience doesn't even register as a problem for me when I compare it with the problem I have with Hillary Clinton's character.

A person's character is shaped and tested by their experiences which is why our next President's character should matter as much if not more than their experience.

1969 - While Barack Obama was being raised by a single mother and experiencing a life of racial and cultural diversity, Hillary Clinton was learning the art of triangulation and writing an admiring college thesis on Saul Alinsky whose fifth rule of political agitation was, "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."

1979 - While Barack Obama was actively involved in the South African divestment movement to end apartheid, Hillary was reaping profits of almost 10,000% in the futures markets and leaving taxpayers with her real-estate losses in the Savings & Loan bailout.

1989 - While Barack Obama served as the Harvard Law Review's first black president in its 104 year history, Hillary Clinton then wife of the Arkansas governor was receiving payments from a law firm that was doing the state's business and receiving board of director payments from Wal-Mart where she remained silent about Wal-Mart's anti-labor union practices.

1999 - While Barack Obama was securing bipartisan support for health-care reform and passage of low-income tax credits and child care subsidies in the Illinois legislature, Hillary Clinton was urging her husband to bomb Yugoslavia and supporting his Iraq "regime change" policy in order to divert public attention from the president's marital, legal and ethical infidelities.

2007 - While Barack was promoting a restoration of balance between work and wealth and criticizing special interests for distorting U.S. tax codes, Hillary and her husband were liquidating their blind trust of the nearly $50 million amassed during their years in public office.

Hillary Clinton's positions on the issues are all based on political expediency with the goal of being president. Like her husband, Hillary has no attachment to any position, no leadership qualities and no legal, ethical or moral compass to guide her. Also like her husband, she will need to rely on the polls to guide her to a position.

Barack Obama possesses the leadership, principles and visionary qualities of character needed to unite and not divide our country as the global economy teeters on the brink of economic meltdown not unlike the Great Depression.

Afterall the Roaring Twenties decade that preceded the Great Depression, like the Irrational Nineties that preceded our current decade, were both a golden age for technology, scandal-plagued politicians, corporate greed, and unrestrained personal debt and speculation.

Obama is a sack of ***** money junkie politician, just like virtually all of the house and virtually all of the senate and just like virtually everyone who seeks an office in those two houses.

Obama has given speeches on foreign policy that were roundly applauded by the likes of Bill Kristol.

Obama is a drug warrior.

Obama is a gun-grabber.

Obama thinks that the federal government should help out with disaster relief.

Obama wants fascisized health care, for all Americans.

Obama doesn't give a flip about civil liberties.

Obama voted to reauthorize the USA Patriot Act.

Despite running on an antiwar platform for his seat in the Senate, Obama hasn't done one single thing to end the war in Iraq.

Obama is a military interventionist.

[Digger Dan]

Well no matter. Obama is the next U. S. President regardless of what us liberal, conservative, socialist, fascist, DonkeyPhantnatic, Corprat, evangelicals with wedgies think, say, or, do. A done deed unless a super Lunitic gets through the SS (Secret Service).

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Only if you vote for him!

He's got a tough row to hoe once he's nominated, with little background and lots of B.S. . . . Plus, ole Ralph's gonna run again and he'll siphon of some of the green votes as well as the Redneck Democrats . . . gotta remember, there's about 30+% of the whites that won't vote for ANY Black man (or woman) and while that isn't quite the 46% that won't vote for Hillary, that's a bunch . .

I'm not being racist, but realist when I say this . . It's no more than established fact.

[Teacher]

Obama is a global socialist puppet of the CFR and Zbigniew Brzezinski.
If you want more redistribution of our wealth to foreign countries, go with Obama.

[Digger Dan]

If Hilliary wins the Dem ticket those Independents who liked Obama will flock to McCain. The Dems better get a clue. Teach are you a global corpratist? Just wondering. Large where did you come up with the 30% of whites who are the racist types. Are you including Latinos in that figure? Just wondering.
McDuff how do you get from Socialist Meds to facisized Meds. Just wondering.
Right on Large--for me diversity is just another attempt to keep racism and ethnic hatred alive. We are already a diverse bunch with out loading us up with racism and ethnic purity.

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The figures I quote dealing with racism in the USA were from a survey by the Pew Research Center published last August . .

The breakdown was by ethnic group and race . .

Working off the top of my head, I believe that the Asian group had the lowest number of "Racist" people at 28% plus or minus, followed by Whites (31.2%), Latinos (34% plus or minus) and then Blacks at over 38%. These figures had some footnotes where in the case of Whites, fewer were prejudiced against Latinos than blacks, and in the case of Latinos, almost 50% had a degree of prejudice against blacks specifically, mostly in the Southwestern States . .

And while it certainly could be worse, those figures aren't all that good . .

On the subject of Clinton/Obama, currently one of the largest groups of Obama voters are first time young voters, students, etc . . The same type of group that elected Jesse Ventura to a governorship. And . . If Obama doesn't win the Democratic nomination for POTUS, that group will be lost to the Democrats . . most of them will not vote for Hillary.

However, this is Conventional Wisdom, and it may not hold up in an Election . . The only bet I'm placing on it would be the time it takes to make the statement . . !

[Lexi]

I'll never vote for OsamaObama OR HillBill. They're both a couple of wacked out individuals who can't focus on the issues at hand because they're too caught up in themselves to get a clue.

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Currently the Democratic Candidates continue to live in the past and continue to blame each other for the situations at hand, while failing completely to come to grips with the hard situations and solutions they will inherit if elected.

Should they continue to do so, once one or the other becomes THE Candidate, they will surely lose to the person who can actually specify what he/she will do with reality connected . .

However, I'm sure, there is a fairly large group of people who cannot handle reality and will vote for the person who sounds the most like Santa Claus . . Free College, free medical care for all, The Robin Hood Tax Plan, Smarter, prettier Children, and many other unexplained gifts from the government, as well as creating "Peace in the Middle East" in the first 90 days in office . . Just by "Talking to them" . .

I'm sure . .

And then they'll blame the Republicans for the consequences when it all fails . .

[Lexi]

And then they'll blame the Republicans for the consequences when it all fails . .


Nothing ever changes. lol...

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Almost on a different subject, but still pertaining greatly to how the Democrats are going to rule if given the chance, will be how they (the DNC) and the two Democratic Candidates handle the Michigan, Florida Primary deals . . This has a chance of becoming the big bone of contention, and will possibly end up very similar to the 2000 General Election, where no more than a hundred votes decided the Presidency, and ever since, a good share of Democrats have believed the Election was "Stolen" . . And some pundits have predicted blacks rioting in the streets if Hillary wins because of those State's Delegates remaining with her . .

And if the nomination is decided by riots in Denver in August, you can almost bet McCain will be a Shoo In . .

ButwotthehelldoIknow?