Local Duputy Zaps Boy 10 With Tazer

[Loren Swelk]

We are a long way from hearing the last of this. Last week it happened in Arkansas to a girl about the same age and after a huge national outcry the officer was fired. Sheriff Taylor has already backed himself into a corner by saying it was justified, but I wonder how will it be judged in the court of public opinion.
http://www.chieftain.com/articles/2009/12/03/news/local/doc4b1753ad92eca454367982.txt

[Sandra]

There's just no excuse for that.

Those deputies and their supervisor need to be fired immediately, if not sooner, and the Sheriff recalled or voted out whichever can happen first.

This BS has to stop. That's nothing short of child abuse, and I don't care how many stupid excuses they think they can come up with, there's no justifying tasing a child, especially that young.

As for the foster parents - they should be fired and sued. They should not be foster parents if they can't handle a child any better than that.

Just what was going on in that home to cause the child to act out in such a manner? I'd be willing to bet some kind of a power struggle. CPS needs to retrain their foster parents and discipline these ones. Better yet, don't place any more children with them. They don't know how to handle them.

Children's services here needs to denounce what the SO did, and they need to make a statement on that. Children are removed from their homes allegedly for protection. Who is protecting this child? Apparently nobody, and it's pretty bad when even the cops are being abusive to a child.

They should be thrown in jail for that.

I'd like to see a law that makes it illegal to use tasers on anyone under the age of 21 or over the age of 50. In fact, I think they should be outlawed by law enforcement officers because they're using them too ****ed much.

And yes, this pisses me off. Who the frick do those idiots think they are? And WTF did the cops do BEFORE tasers were invented? If they could handle unruly children then with out them, they can do it now.

NO EXCUSES! NONE!


grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....!

[Loren Swelk]

Now here is something that is reassuring, tazing 10 year olds is not a reviewable incident, from today's Chieftain:

The 10th Judicial District's Critical Incident Team is not investigating the incident. The team consists of investigators from every law enforcement agency in the county that are charged with probing controversial incidents involving officers, such as in-custody deaths, shootings and serious accidents.

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Dunno, wasn't there, but . . . . .

Lessee, our Sheriff's crew has been accumulating a record to be envious of if you were trying for the Chickensh*t Award or something close . .

Shooting a Dog that was doing no more than what he was there for, basically, because the Deputy was unprepared to do his job, both by training and lack of equipment.

Then this . .

A gorilla should be able to subdue a 10 year old kid, even if the kid is a little big for his age, which, according to the paper, he wasn't . . He was in a confined space, and taking a piece of pipe away from him shouldn't have required more than letting him take a swing and then quickly stepping up and taking it away . . No karate, Ju Jitsu, or deadly Hand to hand combat training needed. Common sense . . which seems to be badly lacking in the training of these jokers . .

There's other things that the S.O. (and the Pueblo Police) have been guilty of, both before and after the election of Kirk Taylor, so I wont heap the abuse on him . . I'll go back to the general attitude and training of the contemporary Law Enforcement community as a whole . .

[Sandra]

We still need a citizen review panel...

I VOLUNTEER TO START IT AND RUN IT....who wants to volunteer with me?

[Marc.N]

Looks like the kid found reality to be quite a shock.

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Less than two weeks ago, Thiebault, Billings and Taylor Poo Poo'ed that idea publicly, and stated that their 10th Judicial District's Critical Incident Team was doing an "adequate" job of incident review and internal disclipine . .

I believe we discussed this about two years ago at length in this forum . . and then again a while back when a questionable shooting occurred.

But then . . After the paper (or electronic media) report an incident like this, whether it is reviewed, or not, we never hear about it . . Good, bad, guilty of what or any other displacement of the investigation (unless the cop is fired) is never released publicly.

Excuse being that employment files are confidential . . or . . You can go ask for copies of the Cop's AIB record at about $4.50 a copy (or more). Which, in some cases, can be several hundred dollars . . which makes one ask, if he (she) has an AIB record that extensive, why does he still have a job in law enforcement?

Certainly makes one wonder . .

[Marc.N]

We are a long way from hearing the last of this. Last week it happened in Arkansas to a girl about the same age and after a huge national outcry the officer was fired. Sheriff Taylor has already backed himself into a corner by saying it was justified, but I wonder how will it be judged in the court of public opinion.
http://www.chieftain.com/articles/2009/12/03/news/local/doc4b1753ad92eca454367982.txt

The officer was not fired for Tasing the perfect sweet loving young princess who "...was "violently kicking and verbally combative" when Bradshaw tried to take her into custody, and she kicked him in the groin..."

The Arkansas firing was because the officer failed to follow protocol and have the camera on the Taser turned on.

The official cause of the firing was violating department policy, not using the Taser on the girl. He supposedly left the camera off the Taser when he should have kept it on. ”

[Marc.N]

I think a police review board could be useful but it would need balanced rational adults rather than emotional biased screechers who shoot from the hip.

[davide]

Sounds like the little jerk may have deserved it. I have seen incorrigible ten year olds that would stab you if you turned your back and who were pretty scary.I think more troubled children need a taste. They do not respect their parents, they do not respect law enforcement, they do not respect their teachers . Why are drop out rates so high and our prison population always on the increase ? It is because JR. never gets any discipline and gets away with it. Too bad it had to get to that point. The kid disobeyed a direct order to drop his weapon, he understood and refused. Lets set a pattern here and say "OK , do not listen to the cops, you tell them what to do" ? No way.

[Loren Swelk]

I don't wish to come across as a victim sympathizer, but in reading this particular incident, the 10 year old was of normal size, had a 2 foot pipe and was confined in a 3 foot wide space. Picture swinging a 2 foot long pipe in a 3 foot space, impossible. (visualize a yardstick, that should help). couple that with having 2 deputies present, the one with the taser was described as a thickly built 6'2" individual and it seems like there should have been another way. Then several weeks ago a duputy shoots a dog confined in it's own yard and I begin to see a pattern of macho policemen in action.

[davide]

Now picture a big bad burly cop going in and physically controlling the idiot kid. You would get all kinds of "Police Brutality", "200lb cop attacks 75lb kid"
type headlines. I think the tazer is a whole lot cleaner. We need more details to get an accurate picture. What were the tazer settings at the time ?, does the officer involved have a sterling or questionable record ? Has the kid threatened people before ?

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Why do they carry that nightstick?

[Marc.N]

Why do they carry that nightstick?

Riot control. One person or otherwise.

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Riot control. One person or otherwise.

Any age limit on one person riots?

I guess I rest my case . . Ole Petey Hudgens had a nightstick, and a gun . . as far as I know, he never pulled the gun, but he settled many a one, two or three man riot in a bar or disturbance, and everyone lived to go to court . .

And all Petey ever got was a cramp in his right hand . .

[Marc.N]

Policeman's Prank

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNTj5Fus1K4&feature=SeriesPlayList&p=0FD9535E64AFFB04

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Well, the Foster Dad said, "No Harm, no Foul, it didn't hurt him, probably helped".

On that, I won't say any more . .

[Sandra]

Maybe someone should tase the foster dad. Maybe it'll help.

(He doesn't sound like much of a foster parent, to me.)

CPS should NOT be putting up with this out of their foster parents. If that's the best their foster parents can do, then the department needs an overhaul.

[Marc.N]

Well, the Foster Dad said, "No Harm, no Foul, it didn't hurt him, probably helped".

On that, I won't say any more . .

No problem. The foster parent has rights too.

[Marc.N]

10-year-old boy fights off thug in Paddock

Nov 11 2009 by Sam Casey, Huddersfield Daily Examiner

A 10-YEAR-OLD boy managed to cling on to his grandad’s car keys after he was assaulted by a robber.

The youngster had been at a bonfire display in Paddock when he went to get something out of the car.

A youth demanded the keys, then pushed him over and hit him in the face, but was forced to flee empty-handed.

The attack happened at 7pm at Hill Top Road last Thursday, but details have only just been released by police.

He was between 17 and 25 years-old, about 5ft 7ins tall, Asian or Afro-Caribbean and was wearing a black hooded top and black tracksuit bottoms.

Anyone with information should call Det Con Marie Whitehouse at Huddersfield