No one to blame for Walmart except the three stooges

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Once again the channel vision County Commissioners have made sure 700 people will not have either jobs or better paying jobs. Their attitude of "big business stinks" and "if it ain't union forget it" caters to the very vocal minority in the County. It's time for the silent majority to speak out. The PW elitests wanted to recall the PW board, perhaps the working majority should plan a recall of the commissioners. Kennedy and Poulen are brain dead and Nunez is too new to the post to do anything but go along with their "big steel" dreams.

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Get rid of all three of 'em . . . ! Time to un-elect! Nunez could have spoken out . . . but nooooooooooo . . . . so he's gone too!

[Lexi]

So, who's going to start the petition?

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As I said in another thread about this same thing . . And you do know how I feel about recalls, heh, heh . . Un-Elect 'm when their term's up . . Call 'em and chew their asses out every chance you get . . Make life miserable for them!

They chose to cow-tow to the "Liberty Point Crew" so let 'em depend on the same bunch of Elitists to get 'em elected again!

But, never forget!

[aguila]

That was an injustice to the community. :twisted: :evil: WE are mad...and WE vote.

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OK, now for a real IQ test . . . The County Commisioners want to "Talk" with Wal Mart . . . Kind of a "It's not what you wanted, but here's a carrot, albiet a little one." . . . . "Can We Make a deal?" Loretta says that they might to be able to come to terms in 60 to 90 days . . .

I wonder what part of . . "We have to get this underway . . We have no more time for quibbling" don't they understand. While I'm neither a Rocket Scientist nor a Grammar Professor, I think Wal Mart has said; "We're Done Here." And they will move on . .

Just another reason to remember the County Commisioners at election time . . . and "Reward" them for their foresight!

[Zombiewire]

Plans for Wal-Mart in New York scrapped
By SAM DOLNICK
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEW YORK - A real estate developer scrapped plans to build the city’s first Wal-Mart store amid intense pressure from residents and union leaders.

The decision, announced by city officials Wednesday, comes as a blow to the retail giant, which has sought for years to move into the lucrative New York City market. http://www.chieftain.com/business/1109344751/4

This story makes me very happy!

[Zombiewire]

‘‘It’s fear that won this election for Wal-Mart,’’ Minshall

Just a thought," What is really taking place with Pueblo's leaders and Wal Mart behind close doors?"


http://www.chieftain.com/business/1109435924/1

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Y'know, James, when an election is held, and ONLY ONE vote is for unionization . . that should tell you something.

What it says . . is that the rest of the employees are either happy with their situation or there is nothing else that they can do with their skills . . . . fear apparently had little to do with it. However the lone dissenter might have something to fear from his fellow employees now. I know if I was in his shoes, I would . . falling objects and the sort . . .

And as for the "Pueblo Leaders", it probably doesn't matter. I believe there's nothing they can do. Wal Mart's Warehouse is GONE! I'd bet the only way they might get Corporate's attention is to defer ALL taxes for a hundred years! And maybe build the building! Heh, heh . . . Maybe they'll learn what "Carpe Diem" means! Sooner or later . . .

But you lovely people in Pueblo West still get a Wal Mart Retail Super Store . . Another case of . . Be careful what you wish for . .

[Wahoo]

Large has some good points

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MONTREAL (Reuters) - The Quebec labor relations board has ordered the Canadian unit of Wal-Mart Stores Inc. to stop intimidating and harassing workers who tried to form a union at a Quebec store.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/25/news/fortune500/wal_mart_labor.reut/index.htm

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James . . Move to Canada, Quebec, more precisely . . they seem to hold your views closely.

I'm not going out on a limb to defend Wal Mart's labor problems with the Unions in Canada . . They knew they were going into a liberal hornet's nest when they started opening stores in Quebec . . they'll have to sleep with it.

As for this country, as far as I know, for the number of employees they have, Wal Mart has done a pretty good job of getting along. I believe in the last ten years they have had 3 stores with union issues and 2 class action lawsuits . . No other Corporation with that many employees can say the same, I don't think . . . .

But then, I really don't care, either! I don't work for Wal Mart.

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Thank Large for your thoughts. I always look forward to reading your take.

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Here is something I read in the Pueblo West Paper.



County was right to say 'no' to Wal-Mart

To the editor:

While the member of Pueblo West Citizens for Open Government (PWCOG) believe that Wal-Mart’s decision not to locate in Pueblo West is the correct one, we would like to clarify some issues.

The indications for Wal-Mart not to located in Pueblo West appear to be the very issues that PWCOG has raised for months - traffic, location and taxes.

Pueblo County Commissioners several months ago decided not to give tax abatements amounting to $400,000 for 10 years to Wal-Mart. They did not feel it was fair to give the largest corporation in the U.S. tax breaks and they recognized that they had a responsibility to the safety of the people who traveled the roads that Wal-Mart would be impacting.

The location of the distribution center involved traveling through nine stoplights in what is one of the most accident-prone corridors in the city of Pueblo. The Pueblo County Commissioners have acted in nothing but a responsible, fair and correct manner.

The only entity that was asked to give actual “cash” dollars was the County of Pueblo.

PEDCo, the economic development arm of Pueblo, was asked to put in no money toward this project.

Pueblo West donated the land which they continue to claim they never paid for so there is no cost to them. Pueblo West was donating the tap fees, a cost to the taxpayers, not to Wal-Mart.

But Pueblo County was asked to pay $2 million for road improvements, $4 million in tax abatements and then, because of the increased traffic, would be asked to create another ingress/egress to Pueblo West, which could run another $8 million.

There are other traffic concerns that would end up costing the county additional monies.

But who actually pays for the Wal-Mart demands? We all do. It’s taxpayer dollars, so all of us would pay for a multi-billion dollar company to locate in our community.

Wal-Mart simply did not want to pay their fair share of taxes.

What if everyone did not want to pay their fair share? What services would you like the county not to provide, because that’s the bottom line.

We hope that the public recognizes that the county has acted in a responsible way that protects taxpayer’s interests.

We commend their efforts.
Members of PWCOG

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Hmmmm, same bunch of Whiners and a very small group at that. they couldn't get enough signatures on a petition to make up a city block's population . . another case of "Minority Rules"

In this morning's Chieftain, the Commisioner's now say the actual tax deferment would have probably been less than $200,000 as the figures they were working with had been "incorrect".

And as for Traffic . . The final survey was that the Super Store would create more traffic congestion than the warehouse, by about 10 times.

And as far as the whole tax deferment, cost of water tap, etc. etc. goes, 500-700 $11 per hour employees would have generated far more in sales and property taxes than would have been spent! Do Your Math!

And again, I will reiterate, the whole thing was caused by a small group of selfish, narrow people and three Politicians (County Commisioners) who made decisions based on little or no actual facts. Thus they need to be well remembered as the next "Former County Commisioners" . . their excuses not withstanding!

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This is my first post so be easy on me. I don't get it, complaints for a distribution center because of increased traffic, but no complaints for a wally world super center such as increased traffic and substandard wages. I bet this small group of people for a better government have better than normal jobs with above average pay. I feel that they sucessfully altered the decision of the leaders of Pueblo county. I am sorry the full blame is not to be placed with the three leaders of the county. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

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This morning in the Chieftain, there was a large article covering quite a bit of the Wal Mart Distributorship Debacle. . . Headlined "Communications Breakdown Doomed Wal Mart Deal" . . .

While the article covers some of the history, it also serves the County Commisioners to cover their Asses in a deluxe manner!

BUT, both Puelen and Nunez showed the color of their leadership (if it can be called that) with these statements: Puelen, "I dismissed the Deadline message as a 'Possible Negotiating Tactic'" . . and also states that, "He never knew the limits of the partial Tax Break Wal Mart was referring to". . . . And Nunez; "this County is not about to give Wal Mart tax breaks . . If that kills the deal, that kills it!" on Feb 1 . . . then he states the same as Puelen . . Gee, I didn't really know . . I'm new here, etc. . .

We have "leaders" making major decisions without any information, if I understand their lame pleadings . . or is it "Backpedal Time?" and they think we can't read what was said when it counted? Their bad initial decisions created the situation, and in spite of the 15 or 20 NIMBY's, had their decisions at that time been positive, Wal Mart wouldn't be building their Distributorship in Wyoming!

No excuses . . these people have to be replaced when election time rolls around.

WE WILL NOT FORGET!